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General Category => New Products & Announcements => Topic started by: Salty on February 23, 2014, 11:21:34 AM
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I Apologize up front for using the announce function to do this, but it's the easiest way to reach a large amount of people.
The first person to identify who the poster "stripersurf6500" is on STRIPERSONLINE.com gets 6 plugs of their choice out of anything I make. You will remain anonymous and you have my word on this.
This little slandering miscreant is purportedly from Norwalk Ct., and I'd like at least a name, even better if you have an address.
What he did/said was not only a complete lie and defamation, it's also against Federal law. https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/defamation (https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/defamation)
While I typically turn my shoulder to this online bs, I've reached a point long ago where I've had enough dealing with with this stuff.
Also thanks to all that had positive things to say on the thread (was deleted this morning).
Unfortunately once again the damage is done, which Google picked up on and now has a cached copy for all the world to see for eternity...
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JDJgYznpC6wJ:www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/t/928619/salty+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JDJgYznpC6wJ:www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/t/928619/salty+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a)
This offer stands until someone outs him...
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Sorry the word censor grabbed the email...
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Uncalled for and not cool.
I doubt anything I can say would take the sting out of such an attack, but over the course of this forum and how you run your business says more about you than a drive by post.
That being said, I hope you get some closure on this.
"Contend, O LORD, with those who contend with me"
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Going through the person's other posts, it looks like he is a kid. I think he posted a picture of himself with a sailfish on a charter he took with his dad.
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It was reported that he was 12 years old, but a later post in this thread had a quote which showed he was 37. It is purported he opened this "username" to enter a free lure contest. Then he got outed in that thread because of the amount of tackle in the background of his pictures...so this may be an "alter ego" of someone else on that forum...
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His grammar and spelling leave much to be desired, so that is why I thought he had not finished his basic education.
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LOL
My wife made a comment last night that she didn't think it was a 12 year old because a 12 year old doesn't come up with stuff like this.. I believe it to be an adult also.
I'm really sick and tired of this stuff.
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I am surprised that after that guy was thoroughly trashed and vilified on the forum that he would even post again, let alone something so inflammatory.
:lurk: I'm going to watch to see how this plays out, but I can't spare much time, you know, because of this whole Buggereno thing you have going and my obsesson with it... :laugh:
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Off another thread on SOL someone directed me to this picture of him. http://www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/t/927528/anyone-with-experience-fishing-in-cancun (http://www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/t/927528/anyone-with-experience-fishing-in-cancun)
Does anyone know who this is?
(http://cdn.STRIPERSONLINE.com/b/b1/b1bc0c80_image.jpeg)
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This very well may be his Dad. I read that Cancun post and he says "We ended up booking with Kianah's sportfishing charters, and i was quite impreased. They put us on 5 sailfish but only two landed; one for me and one for my dad."
If this is the case then this is stripersurf6500:
(http://www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/content/type/61/id/1713865/width/1000/height/1000/flags/LL)
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Why is a 12 year old doing all the planning for a charter? Seems pretty sketchy. Good luck
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Go straight for the jugular Scott..
people have to learn that bread money is sacred... its off limits to BS...
When someone plays with a mans good name and his family income then that is when they have crossed the line..
A 12 tear old with "that gear" ??? ?
No way man...
Sounds very fishy to me.. in any case make your move and discipline that poster..
I know that you have had your difference with Tim Surgent in the past (that can happen to any two people, the devil works overtime you know), but Tim is a good Christian and when he sees that someone has crossed the line and used his site to "play with your bread money" he will step in no matter what differences you may have had personally in the past..
family bread money is sacred ground..
the poster sounds like a middle aged person with a mental disorder ... this would explain his behavior past and present.
thats my opinion...
If you give me the green light I can contact Tim Surgent and ask him to look into it if you like?
You let me know Scott.
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The fact that he's killing billfish in this day & age is enough to paint him as an a55hole to begin with. I'll ask around. Wish forums would eliminate usernames, like Dan Blanton's does. All too easy to libel people and hide behind a fake identity. I liked it better in the olden days, when morons who pulled crap like this would meet with "accidents" or engine failures. Hey, I wonder how the Grand Tyrant would like being served with a libel suit?
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Asim I have no interest in anything to do with Timmy. But thanks for offering! I wouldn't care if he left the thread there. He would never do that. It proves a point how big of a scumbag some people are. If I don't find out by RISAA I will put the guys picture on the back of my booth and I can guarantee you someone will walk by from Ct that knows the guy that will out his name for 6 free lures.
Thing that sucks is guys like him don't have a pot to piss in. He already admitted "a limited budget" for his fishing trip. You get shit if you go after them. You get big lawyer bills. And alot more headaches.
I CAN however shame the guy into a public apology.... I can send him a cease and desist letter. I can also sue him for libel because of what he said there.
How much did he hurt my image to my customers? That'd be for a jury to decide.
This bs has been going on for too long. Wtf is it with these guys.
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Tim's handling of anything to do with you Scott.. well.. has been done in a fashion that is ANYTHING but Christian.. no clue who the kid or guy is.. but HOW you can be blamed in the closing of anyones business is crazy.. B7T's gone out of business??. BS...have there been some gone out.. yes.. a whole bunch.. but none for any reasons that came from you.. lack of fish, lack of access and a LOT of very poor business practise, have led to the demise of several brick and mortar shops.. and a lot of back room black market crap too....
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Yanno BigK you got me thinking...is this comment somehow related to Badfish Outfitters bankruptcy filing? I was listed as a creditor on there because they took delivery on an order and never paid for it. Is this the new rumor? This was available online for all to see?
And no I don't disagree with your comments re the Humble Head Tyrant. The guy is making 25% off of all the black market sales on that site. Lookit all the pics of bins of lures without packages and hooks you see on these sites now.
Disgusting.
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so.. it's YOUR Fault.. that they could not pay their bill.. AMAZING..
we live in such great times .. "It's not my fault I failed!"
ah.. the pussification of aMeriCa....
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Yea don't disagree with that. It's my fault I chased them for a year too. From a long standing customer no less.
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Scott, I LOVE the idea of putting up his picture at the show. Not a damn thing he can do about it either. Send me the file, and if I can get my printer working, I'll be happy to make you a 16X20. BTW - how the hell does somebody on a limited budget get to fish for sails in Mexico? Anybody who knows the secret, please pass it along - you can come with me, and I'll even supply the gear and the flies.
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Hi Scott know I have been quite for a while now. this sort of annoyed me since I know your issue well I sent him a pm asking what made him a authority. This is what I have so far
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agostripersurf6500
I didnt say anything about his lures, his lures are great. I was going to buy some so i brought it up to a friend of mine and they told me not to buy from him because he made a bunch of tackle shops go out of business.
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sounds like he is tring to cover his butt to me
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What a crock timmy is even censors the word salty in a pm
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Hey scott to narrow thing down think he might be a tackle shop owner tho might be wrong
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Tnx D Get his name and you win the 6 lures. Tell him you wanna send him a lure LOL
I know he wont give it to you. Tis ok because along with lots of new photograph bling in the booth at RISAA this year BOTH those pictures will be featured front and center. There's LOTS of people there from Norwalk Ct.
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I missed this whole thing. Is there a copy of the full thread someplace? I was away.
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I have a copy here Andy. I will upload it to the server for all to see when I get some time. Computer is defragging right now so can't do much.
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Cool. I have to admit that I don't know whatever happened back then but it seems pretty crazy to still be such a big gorilla in the room. I've tried to PM people and had the name come back as *******. Hope it all works out.
I left a a little Salty's in Panama. I got back yesterday. Spreading the word! :)
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Childish is more how I look at it Andy. Timmy took something private and made sure that he's made it VERY public, all you have to do is google salty's lures and it's top 10. Nice Christian guy. sure.
Here I'll make this very public. This was edited ONLY to remove my login information which his site still keeps.
http://www.saltwaterplugs.com/solsaltythread/salty.htm (http://www.saltwaterplugs.com/solsaltythread/salty.htm)
http://www.saltwaterplugs.com/solsaltythread/salty%20-%20Page%202refreshlast.htm (http://www.saltwaterplugs.com/solsaltythread/salty%20-%20Page%202refreshlast.htm)
http://www.saltwaterplugs.com/solsaltythread/salty%20-%20Page%203.htm (http://www.saltwaterplugs.com/solsaltythread/salty%20-%20Page%203.htm)
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KHARMA
http://www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/t/929046/very-disaponted-with-bass-pro-order (http://www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/t/929046/very-disaponted-with-bass-pro-order)
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Note his first picture showing the paddletail lure out of the bag. and the last picture showing the same empty package claiming he did not recieve the lure. As they say take a kid fishing. this is one kid that does not deserve to go.
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I read the links. Except for the one guy who seems to have been scared away, you got virtually unanimous rave reviews. Good to know. :)
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...I just read the whole BP Shops thread. this guy seems a little off in real life. I wouldn't let him haunt you. Just my opinion.
PS. I have always enjoyed your products and the responses I've gotten when I've needed help and called or emailed.
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Andy I do everything in my powers not to give someone something to complain about. I'm glad people are happy with the stuff.
Someone said this to me yesterday...and truer words have not been spoken...I can match this to many things over the years.
"People act this way when they are either jealous or want to wreck your business so theirs does better. If you weren’t good at what you do, they’d leave you alone. Especially on the internet."
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how much did you pay that killie guy to make those remarks? :)
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I'm hunting him down right now. I'm gonna drill holes in his boat
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how much did you pay that killie guy to make those remarks? :)
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naw forget the hole take out the plugs to the lower unit and drain it mile out he will be majorly screw. . . ummmm believe me it. works great. :-P
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hehehehehe poor jimmy :-*
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Ahh so now we know his name is JAMES.
"Thanks for the help,
James"
http://www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/t/929046/very-disaponted-with-bass-pro-order/15#post_11030895 (http://www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/t/929046/very-disaponted-with-bass-pro-order/15#post_11030895)
DOES ANYONE KNOW JAMES FROM NORWALK CT LAST NAME???
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http://www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/t/929046/very-disaponted-with-bass-pro-order/60#post_11033900 (http://www.STRIPERSONLINE.com/t/929046/very-disaponted-with-bass-pro-order/60#post_11033900)
"I'm calling bullsht on this - this kid has something bad to say about everyone, last week he told us Salty's lures put multiple shops out if business, why hasn't his account been locked?"
You remember what I said about people remembering this crap and how much it hurts a business.
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This is James's Dad.
Does anyone know James's dad from Norwalk Ct
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This is James. DOES ANYONE KNOW A KID NAMED JAMES WHO SALTWATER FISHES IN OR AROUND NORWALK CT
6 FREE LURES JUST A LAST NAME.
WANTED FOR ONLINE LIBEL AND MALICIOUS RUMOR CIRCULATION. 6 FREE LURES JUST A LAST NAME. IF YOU KNOW THIS KID JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL SCOTT@SALTYBUGGER.COM
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Back when I worked for Reel-Time, I used to call Capt. Jeff Northrop for fishing reports from down that way; if your pal's involved in the business end of fishing, Jeff would probably know who he is. It's been 14-15 years, so I don't know how to contact him any more, of if he's even still in the area, but Jeff would be the guy I'd talk to. Or you could contact every tackle shop in the area and tell them you want to pay back the $1000 the dude lent you when you were in Mexico last year and lost your travelers' checks. Tell them you can't find his contact info and try to sound like you're drunk - that'll make the whole yarn more believable. Even if you wind up talking to the miscreant himself, he'll probably give you his name and address on the off-chance you'll send him the grand before you sober up.
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Great idea Peter. I will forward his picture to some shops down there. Suspect he don't buy from shops though. He's more interested in ripping off basspro.
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Does this sound familiar?
Judge Orders News Website To Reveal Name...
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/05/philadelphia-judge-issues-ruling-that-could-give-anonymous-online-commenters-second-thoughts/ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/05/philadelphia-judge-issues-ruling-that-could-give-anonymous-online-commenters-second-thoughts/)
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Have not looked at this in the last few days. OFF SOL: "stripersurf6500
updated their location 3/11/14 at 8:32pm"
Yes so James must be aware of this thread here and has removed his location from his profile in an effort to hide. Smart Move James young lad. But it's a bit late we already have you recorded as Norwalk Ct.
I'm going to find your last name. One of your friends will out you at the RI show.
Have your dad call me at 508-278-6662
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hey just was thinking the website of the charter they used is on the boat in cancun send them a pic of these two and ask for last name
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Does this sound familiar?
Judge Orders News Website To Reveal Name...
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/05/philadelphia-judge-issues-ruling-that-could-give-anonymous-online-commenters-second-thoughts/ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/05/philadelphia-judge-issues-ruling-that-could-give-anonymous-online-commenters-second-thoughts/)
About freaking time somebody stood up to these rat bastards. I love it.
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POSTERS PRINTED.
James I'm going to find out your last name. And I'm not backing down until I get it. I will be standing in the booth handing out your picture to ANYONE from Connecticut.
You WILL give me a public apology. If you don't your Dad is going to be spending LOTS of money on a lawyer.
And I hope you get grounded.
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Wanted poster was seen by many! I have several leads to work on, and lots of people interested in free lures :)
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Still looking for you James from Norwalk Ct. I've given your and your dad's pictures to every shop in the area and others are looking for you now too!
It's only a matter of time you miscreant little snake.
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tar and feather em salty
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So how goes the hunt?
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Still looking...the name will come out at some time. He knows I'm looking for him. So are a number of shops in his area.
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Hey James hope you got $100k baby cuz I'm still looking for you...this will be you and your daddy when I get your last name ^-^
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/05/lincoln_city_hotel_sues_for_de.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/05/lincoln_city_hotel_sues_for_de.html)
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BUMP ;D
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Disgusted at the drivel this scumbag is spewing.
$100 cash reward for the name of this pos. SOMEONE knows him. You will remain anonymous.
To the guy who sent me the email thanks. I can't reply to you right now because I'm in NJ but suffice to say I'm sick and tired of hearing this bullshit.
To my dearest friend from Ct. I know your privy to this thread...and I will get your name. When I do I'm going for your jugular.
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this clown is still talking S--T??
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Yep I got a copy of an earlier pm from someone this week. You just wouldn't believe it.
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It's bad enough he did it. Now he's just rubbing your face in it. I hope you get the lil bastard.