Yea I know nothing lasts for ever but I just want to to the best I can within reason. Envirotex is cheaper so I'll use it, it works the same and I can do a nice job. Down here in Texas land most the fun stuff to catch has a mouth full of teeth. The king fish race at your bait and attempt to rip it in half on the first pass, haha this doesn't lend well to plug finishes, It is kind of a show of pride down here to compare chewed up baits in camp while having a couple cold ones. Then we have the good ole' curious black tip shark that likes to hit plugs occasionally, enough said. I don't mind plugs getting destroyed by fish, I just don't want the plug to become worthless due to my processes. This site has helped curve some of the experimental time and I appreciate that, the waterlox works real good, I tested this stuff on a scrap piece of pot. cedar and the penetration was excellent the rest is just paint and exo-skeleton more or less. Thanks for all the help, I look forward to participating in this forum.