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General Category => Plug / Lure Building Forum => Topic started by: shark on May 25, 2011, 07:32:21 PM

Title: Top coat
Post by: shark on May 25, 2011, 07:32:21 PM
I know this probally being asked before but im struggling to get devcon 30min 2 ton epoxy, all i can get is the 5min 2 ton devcon, is this the same stuff the same but just different setting times ? i guess ill have to work faster if i use the 5min one ?

I can get e tex now and some stuff called crystal sheen which apparently is harder then etex when cured,

ive just about finished my dryer ...........took the microwave to bits for the motor then had to explain to the wife why we have a new shiny new one  ;D ,

what do you all prefer.

sharkster
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: handyman on May 25, 2011, 11:05:20 PM
wonder why you can get the 5min devcon........and cant  get the 30min.........are you ordering on line or are you shopping local.........should be able to order online????........dont try the 5min....it might start to set up before you finish the plug.......i never worked with e-tex.......what about flexcoat rod building finish....the only thing you have to mix equal parts with syringes......its not to forgiving with the measurements......and you must spin the plug to prevent sags...................funny about the micro wave..........my wife dosent like when i blend fur in the blender when i make dubbing for my flys...........good luck and let me know about the 30min stuff...........i use flexcoat but ive also used 30min devcon........but favor flexcoat :)
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: Salty on May 26, 2011, 04:56:20 AM
5 minute will yellow in less than 1 month.

You got to be able to find 30 minute? There's more than just Devcon...there's umpteen million places that make epoxy? If you can't find that look for envirotex lite or rod builders finish...
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: shark on May 26, 2011, 05:31:32 AM
Cheers bruce

the shop i looked at was on line ive tried quite a few places but they all stock the 5min stuff  no 30min ?

cant say ive looked for flexcoat,

Thought about using bug bond but too expensive, just ordered some flex-coat to try how much would one plug say a 6" size need of the flex coat ........ 2cc ? of each resin=hardner

mark


Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: shark on May 26, 2011, 05:32:39 AM
Thanks Salty.....


Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: surfstix on May 26, 2011, 06:57:22 AM
Most good hardware stores carry 30 min Devcon if not they will bring it in for you.
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: handyman on May 26, 2011, 07:53:22 AM
Sharkie!!!! wad up yo!..................yea 2cc  of each is perfect.......add some fine glitter for lure makeing.......just a little dab will do ya......not much  go sparce on the glitter.......and your ready to go :)
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: shark on May 26, 2011, 12:24:37 PM
Cheers Bruce

Surfstix ive asked a few places if they could get me the 30min in stock there reply was they sell more 5min ?.

ive got the flex coat coming now.
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: richiep on June 01, 2011, 10:17:59 AM
Shark, you can find the 30 minute stuff on Ebay....just do a search on Devcon Epoxy
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: shark on June 01, 2011, 01:48:29 PM
Thanks i got a large amout of flexcoat coming
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: handyman on June 01, 2011, 03:35:23 PM
dont forget equal parts......and dont eyeball the measurements.......use syringes.........and you have to spin your plug
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: shark on June 01, 2011, 05:45:37 PM
This flexcoat i got coming has built in dispensers one squeze = 3cc but ill find some syringes without the silicon plunger.

and my plug spinners ready but its only a single plug set up

mark


Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: handyman on June 01, 2011, 10:18:58 PM
single plug set up will work just fine
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: shark on June 02, 2011, 04:25:48 AM
Many thank handy,

Talk about bad luck the flex coat arrived and one bottle is cracked talk about p#@sed  off now another weeks wait for the replacement doh!.


Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: handyman on June 02, 2011, 06:59:40 AM
well sharkie............if it werent for bad luck.............you wouldnt have no luck at all :)
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: shark on June 02, 2011, 10:52:39 AM
Well bad luck turned round i called the shop where the flex coat come from, and they where so helpful the sent a replacement bottle in a TAXI  :o free cost to me  about 190 mile round trip,  so a test plug is now turning a old yozuri F 

Lol what the setting time for flex coat our temp is 23deg c so 73.4deg f or HOT ,


Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: handyman on June 02, 2011, 12:11:11 PM
4hrs set time.....but prolly still tacky figure overnight should be fine
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: shark on June 02, 2011, 04:56:32 PM
Thanks bruce ive done a couple of plugs , but the first one i put too much on and it looks lumpy will it be fine to sand down or just leave it as is,

fish will not know end of the day, one thing for sure its hard than it looks to get a good finish.
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: handyman on June 02, 2011, 07:08:33 PM
lumpy!!!!......hmmmm......??????......yea its ok to sand it out but let it dry real good.........lets see....you mixed equal parts of flex coat  hardner/resin.......in a clean mixing cup.......and mixed the stuff for 3min...just to blend it real good.....you applied the flex coat with a clean brush.....on a clean surfplug.....so im guessing every thing was clean with no dust........and your plug turner spins true( no wobble )........and you didnt add to much heat...............i realy dont apply any heat to my plugs....mild heat will level your plug out nicely.............did you add flakes  you dont need much and they have to be real fine.......the way to tell for fine glitter is to make the mistake i made a while back.......i sneezed and it took days for them to settle down.......id go into my shop and i kept seeing glitter spots ........say is the flexcoat good.....some times the resin can go bad and get cloudy.....you mentioned one tube was cracked during shipment   was that the resin.....anyway not sure why it came out lumpy..........

heres a tip on mixing flexcoat.......measure equal parts then stir slowly you will notice the flexcoat start to get cloudy....keep mixing until the flexcoat starts to get real clear again   thats when you know its mixed well..........adding a piece of news print under your mixing cup will help you see what im talking about......like a magnifiying glass
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: shark on June 02, 2011, 07:23:59 PM
yep all clean ........no heat applied at all ...turner turns tru.....didnt get round to apply glitter as yet but will do, what i ahve done is on the secong plug i mixed the flexcoat well , then applied it but this time i pushed it about making sure every bit was coated with flex c this one turned out spot on, what i think i did on the first on was i did apply to much and sort of left it to self level,

Ill sand the first one later this week leaving plenty of time to harden, the bottle that was cracked was sent back and replaced, ill try the news papaer trick.

thanks handy
Title: Re: Top coat
Post by: handyman on June 02, 2011, 08:39:30 PM
nice ok that makes sence....... yea make sure when you applie the flexcoat  hand turn your plug to make sure all is coated and that there are no bare spots..........then when all is even  fire up your  plug dryer