i've been doing plug kits for few years now and a few problems that have popped up are bubbles in the eyes,i always brush down to the tail to keep any bubbles down there i also exhale on the plug to pop any.after i put them in the spinner i check for bubbles and dripps for the first hour,but i'm still finding bubbles in the eyes.
the next problem is cracks this just started happing a few batches ago.i havn't change any steps.i thought i might of forgot to sand the primer beforepainting but thats not it.
last and most annoying is yellowing i have most of my first kits and use them,there white as snow my newer ones yellow in less then a month.
in the pics i tryed to show whats going on the top plug[surfster]is atlest 3 years old the bottom[danny] less then a year.
the cracks go down to the primer.
the bubble eyes didn't come out to good.
any ideas whats going on.rob
sealer is not sealing first Rob. The cracks are expansion cracks..
The yellowing is from bad epoxy or the primer no good and bleeding out of the body. This happens on all the cedars. Try dipping them in a lacquer sanding sealer after you seal them. Or do multiple dips of the sanding sealer.
bubbles.
I knew a girl called bubbles once.
bubbles can be caused by paint not being dry too....
Quote from: Salty on August 14, 2010, 08:21:49 PM
sealer is not sealing first Rob. The cracks are expansion cracks..
The yellowing is from bad epoxy or the primer no good and bleeding out of the body. This happens on all the cedars. Try dipping them in a lacquer sanding sealer after you seal them. Or do multiple dips of the sanding sealer.
bubbles.
I knew a girl called bubbles once.
lol so did I
yep your plug is absorbing water wood is swelling and blowing out the epoxy
and maybe your epoxy is old as far as the yellowing goes
what type of epoxy are you using/and sealer???
i my self like a product from ZINSSER......bullseye sealcoat universal sanding sealer 100% wax free shellac........submerge the plug in the stuff for about 10minnow stuff drys quick to
good luck :)
thanks guys,i was useing boiled linseed oil mixed with min spirits and thought that might be the problem so i switched to the sanding sealer[zinsser] and spray primer on this new batch of kits.
i've been sealing with envirotex lite,the bubbles are in the top coat around the eyes.
thanks again
Try letting everything dry longer Rob.
A wise man once told me Plug building is a marathon not a race.
i don't think its timing i let them hang for ten day after soaking three after paint[each color] and three days top coat.
what type of epoxy or top coat are you guys using i don't really care for the e-tex,the hardner is yellow out of the bottle.
HAY RAC!!
like i said i like to use zinsser bulls eye sealcoat sanding sanding sealer 100% wax free shellac. drys quick just soak your plugs in it 5/10min......it will lift the grain a little.... depends
my primer i use RUST-OLEUM ultra cover 2x primer.........i use auto-air pearlized colors
my epoxy i use flex coat 2 part epoxy and measure equal parts useing a syringe and stir for about 3 min you will notice when mixing the 2 parts it starts off clouldy but after about 3min the 2 parts will be gin clear i blow out the bubbles and applie to the plug than a slow spin to reduse sags....................tight lines good luck :)
thanks handyman i'll give the flex coat a shot.i was only soaking the plugs in the sanding sealer for a few minutes.i'll let them soak a little long next time around.
say rac just keep in mind when using flex coat 2 part epoxy i use highbuild flexcoat and they must be measured exactly 1:1 cant eyeball the measurement thats why i use the syringe im sure there is other alternatives of epoxy but this works for me.......... :)
http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Catalog/CRB-Epoxy-Finish/Bubble-Buster-by-Mud-Hole (http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Catalog/CRB-Epoxy-Finish/Bubble-Buster-by-Mud-Hole)
Epoxy Bubble Buster by Mud Hole (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5uSTYNURJ0&feature=player_embedded#ws)
I think this stuff is denatured alcohol and water mixed together... watch how it dries off to the side...there is a water component there...and a solvent.
Say Handyman, where do you get that Highbuild Flexcoat? Rich
msds says methanol and proprietary additive.
say shrub.........mud hole tackle...........i use syringes to measure it to equal parts.........cant guess at the mix or it wont cure..........and must be dryed on a slow spinn
Thanks Handyman, I actually checked some of my catalogs and found some. The 3 catalogs I checked all had it in the rod building section I usually just look at the plug and lure building section. Bought the syringes and also a small rod drying motor. When it comes in I will figure out how to adapt it. Cant wait. Thinking about making a small drying box much like the one in one of the other threads on this forum. Motor to spin them and a light to help cure them. Thanks again.
way to go shurb yea i build my own rods so i have a lot of flex coat around........just remember when mixing equal parts the epoxy will be cloudy stir it for about 3 min it should get real clear thats when you know its mixed well and will set nicely.......add some small flakes to the mix........dont need much......to add that extra touch.......good luck
I'll post them when they are done.